No Matter How Hard I Try Xinth CANNOT Be Stopped | Hades 2

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  5. Thanks for the upload, Boated. You got any idea what might be a good build for the axe post-patch? Kinda lost on a comfortable aspect to play on 16-32 fear for it since it lost the block and the omega slowdown. They all feel bad to me compared to other weapons, lol.

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  6. Was just thinking of this combo myself today. I wonder if Blitz application would be any good with them, too.

    For our trivia:

    The original Greek myths about Echo are very different from the popular story we know. In the 2nd century BC novel Daphnis and Chloe, the titular character Daphnis is a storyteller of Greek myths, and relates the story while attempting to woo the other namesake Chloe. He relates that Echo was the daughter of a human mortal and a nymph, but raised in the mountains with the nymphs and taught beautiful singing and music that rang out through the mountain valleys.

    The nature God Pan (of the Aspect of Pan) lusted after her, but she would not yield to him or any man, preferring to stay with the nymphs. Spurned, he cursed farmers with feral madness, and they tore apart poor Echo limb from limb. Gaia, however, took pity on poor Echo, and hid her remains within the earth, letting her eternally sing through the mountains by repeating back the words and music of those nearby as echoing melodies. Pan, for his part, can sometimes hear her echoing his own pipes back to her, searching endlessly for her but never able to find her. Seems to be a motif that the bastard's victims find solace in nature while he's eternally tormented by their voices, never able to disturb them again. This version is also alluded to in the Homeric and Orphic Hymns, and the Greek epic Dionysiaca reiterates it. Thus, in the Classical world it was undoubtedly the most popular version.

    But the more 'modern' version of the story, the famous tale that Hades II draws upon is actually a Roman adaptation written about by Ovid in his landmark work Metamorphoses. I normally am not a huge fan of Ovid's revision because they contain a lot of anti-Athenian propaganda, which is a bit like a US author adapting a bunch of classic British myths while also changing them to make Britain look scummier and more pathetic in the process. In this case, though, I do think his version is strictly better.

    Echo was herself a mountain nymph in his telling, and a terrible gossip with an alluring voice. Because of her skills in conversation, she was charged by Zeus with distracting his wife with some lengthy story or dialogue whenever he felt like cheating (which was often). Eventually, Hera cottoned on to the ruse, and her famous wrath came in the form of cursing Echo to never speak unless spoken to, eternally forced to speak only using the last few words of whatever was most recently said to her. Just like in the game (just like in the game…like in the game…like in the game…).

    Later, an impossibly beautiful young man named Narcissus was out hunting with friends when Echo stumbled upon him and became immediately smitten with his beauty. She tried to call out to him, to win him over with words, but the curse took her voice away. Instead, she could only silently follow, then repeat back his words when he became lost. Confused, Narcissus demanded to know who was there, but only heard his own voice instead. Eventually, he demanded that she show herself, but worded in such a way that it seemed like he was reciprocating her love for him. She immediately jumped at the chance, but he spurned her, confused and used to snubbing smitten suitors.

    Poor Echo attempted to explain herself, but the words simply wouldn't come, so she fled in shame. In secret she pined away for him, spying on him as he spurned yet more suitors who would proposition him wherever he went. He was particularly cruel to a male suitor, Ameinias, giving him a sword and saying he should off himself rather than ever bother him again, to which said suitor obliged. Before he did, though, he prayed to Nemesis to avenge his unrequited love. Nem complied (as she mentions in the games, though she finds no small level of frustration that he hasn't learned his lesson even in death), and had him fall in love with his own reflection (just as he has done in-game). So taken with his reflection was he that he either wasted away beside the pool of water where he first spotted himself, unwilling to leave his own side even for food, or killed himself out of despair over never being able to have the man in the reflection.

    Either way, Echo witnessed his death and the subsequent dying declaration of unrequited love he made to his reflection as his last words. She repeated his dying words to himself as echoes all across her valley, pretending to herself that his unrequited love for himself was instead a declaration of love for her, but succumbed to the despair of the situation in time and wasted away herself. Her body slowly faded away, leaving behind only an ordinary stone in its place and a voice in the mountains that eternally repeats words back to those around it to this very day. It's a great bit of ironic tragedy writing, and has more or less completely supplanted the original version of the story in the modern day. Hence, the games use the more famous newer version, tying Echo and Narc's story to Nem's own (in the original Greek version Aphro was the one who cursed Narc) and nicely connecting it to the subplot about how the Gods tend to treat mortals running through the game.

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  16. I have no experience in game design or anything. But am I the only one who wonders why they are bringing new areas, weapons and such into the game, yet we STILL wait for a Narcissus model or overworld models for Echo, Circe etc? Can it be that hard? It shouldnt be that low of a priority either?

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