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Miscellaneous Myths: Hades and Persephone
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Persephone and Hades are one of my favorite couples. As shown in Lore Olympus
YES FINALLY I haven't even watched it yet but I've been WAITING for you to see this
The Hades game has such a cool version of the Cthonic myths of Greece that I accept it as headcanon. Hades, Persephone and their son Zagreus are so fun to watch as they develop with the other denizens of the Underworld, with the Olympians as fun background characters.
🙂 We Neet More Dark And EVIL Persephone
James Woods played Hades. He did do a fantastic job.
22:20 It is not actually certain if Zeus was not the king of the Gods even back in the Mycenaen time or Poseidon instead, Since the king of the Gods did not necessarily need to have the largest following which Zeus from the evidence did not seems to have during the Mycenaen time. And even though Posidon did have the title of Wanax aka the King, it does not again necessarily mean he was King of the Gods. As it might just symbolize his power over the earth aka the human realm which does not include the skies which are in every case seen as higher (no pun intended) ranking. Or that like Mecenans having multiple kings with the high King in Mycenea, Zeus could have occupied the position of High King of the gods, yet not playing that much of an role in lives of the mortals so he got less attention than Poseidon.
On Persephone, yeah, many thought she was a Goddess of Spring, despite the original text not stating as such. Also, Hades did not control the Styx; in fact, no one did. It was a Goddess you swore to, and breaking it means death. Even Zeus fears her, so he is very careful in what oaths he makes to the Styx River.
Also, to add to the discussion, I wonder if the whole myth of Hades and Persephone was people being upset she was no longer a Goddess of the dead and little retcon to bring people back by stating she married into the House of Hades to return to her actual home.
I know the feeling of archaeology as i wanted to do the same but with paleontology, even having my own theories about how a plesiosaurus was stuck in the loch ness lake or a really wild theory on how the T Rex may have been an actual wyvern in the lands of china. However the process of paleontology is more behind the desk stuff and scholarships and paperwork, which sucks cause exploring ancient history and fossils, even excluding stuff like Jurassic Park and indiana jones with its romantic fantasy to it, has always been fascinating.
23:32 Not sure what she is smoking as the poem makes it clear that Hades is the one who got this ball rolling desiring Perhsephone whom again he took forcefully against her will. If anything both of them are the bad guys rather than just Zeus.
Demeter sulking somehow reminds me of Achilles sulking
You have never seen Hadestown?!
Watch the Animatics.
28:01 More tied to the ancient notion that all waters lead to the underworld.
“The Goddess of Spring” — part of the problem is Walt Disney. Prior to Snow White, there was a Silly Symphony cartoon with that title, which ID’ed Persephone as the GoS. Pop culture sometimes doesn’t research very well.
If you think the strings and tumetacks was fun in this vidio, wait till you get to Loki.
Blue's "God Awful Long" Video: Dew It
53:51 Do it! Seriously, it's an amazing time!
Hades was played by James Woods
Supposedly the only Greek god who explicitly never forced himself on anyone was Ares, until the Romans merged him with Mars anyway. Which sounds odd to us because Ares represented all the horrible things about war and that's definitely something we recognize as horrible.
That was indeed one of Red's most popular Miscelleanous Myths. But you should cover her Halloween Special on Werewolves if you didn't already do it.
James Woods is Amazing as Hades, and has actually voiced that version of the character in every media featured in, from the og movies, the spin off cartoon, Cameos in "Mickey's house of Mouse cartoon, and Kingdom Hearts.
Also I Highly recommend Lore Olympus, It's So Good
I jumped in exitment when i saw this video in my notifications
Similar to the osp Loki video I feel like if I ever get a wish, I'd wish to have a complete version of every piece of writing in history or a complete compendium of significant events, beliefs etc. I hate those holes in our knowledge that will never be known or not knowing how those things changed over time.
My own take on the origin of Hades is (and I think I commented this under a previous OSP-reaction before) that Hades as an alternate name for the underworld came first and then the deity, in part because I feel it's quite peculiar that both the place and its ruler share the same name (granted it's the same in Norse myth with the goddess Hel and the realm of the dead Hel/Niflhel?), and although Ancient Greek language is of course very different from modern English and contemporaries, I feel like it's not exactly uncommon for language that denotes a female ruler of a place to be the same as language that denotes the relationship of a woman to a man, like "mistress", Persephone can be referred to as the "mistress of Hades" and it'd be correct regardless of if Hades is referring to the place or the god.
Anyways, the origins of Persephone herself are extremely intruiging… how she was seemingly the sole ruler of the underworld originally, and a duo with her mother who was effectively a goddess of life, and then with Poseidon, the "Earthshaker", himself as her father… actually him being the father of the ruler of the underworld definitely would strengthen his rep as cthonic king of the Mycenaean pantheon, despite seemingly still being primarily a god of the sea. Also, Demeter and Persephone being revered as a duo in their main cult-place makes me feel like they might've originally been independant gods of life and death that were eventually swallowed up and integrated into the Mycenaean pantheon as related to Poseidon, its king, when the Mycenaean people started to spread across Greece… and with Greece being made up of so many islands, it's also real easy to see how a god of the ocean would become their head god while they were expanding their influence across these islands, now that I think about it, and why his influence would've started to degrade in the hellenistic period when Greek culture had already spread throughout the entire area even with it being split between the various city-states.
Also, obligatory FGO-connections… there's not much, honestly. Demeter was one of the Greek gods that actually appeared in LB5… but we didn't get too much about her, the only noteable thing is that Persephone was definitely on her mind, which makes sense, but not much else that didn't have to do with the entire pantheon. Even Aphrodite got more with her clearly valuing Hephaestus despite always cheating on him in myth, and recently an appearence in the Interlude of Galatea iirc, the statue she awakened to life, with specific references to her two very different aspects (or might've been Galateas materials? I think those got translated around the time I played the Interlude).
You really should give hades a try very good game and cool story, it also has an easy mode that makes it a lot easier to get to the end of the story.
WARNING: The history of Rome video approaches the history from a.. moralizing angle? Perspective? Nevertheless, Blue has proven and admitted he can be QUITE fallible when tackling large topics. None are larger than ol' Roma. Watch at your own discretion.
The moral of the story is this… Hades is actually not that bad compared to everyone else and most of all:
NEVER TAKE DATING ADVICE FROM ZEUS
the song you recognized at 2:25 is "in the hall of the mountain king" when you pointed it out i got curious and knew i had it in a playlist somewhere ^^
These videos always make me happy. OSP for the win.
Did he ever react to red's odyssey video? he loved odysseus in the Iliad
I do love the modern romance of Hades and Persephone in media nowadays. it is fun.
also i created my own tournament of Record of Ragnarok, and had Persephone as one of the fighters. or more accurately, her going by "kore" and showing off her more dreaded cruel side as the outside shows an innocent girl of nature, but in the fight she releases savage thorns, has a smile and aura that causes a primordial fear in people, and even intense sadism.
You might enjoy the detail diatribe on Stray Gods, but idk how much of it you would actually watch seeing as partway through, they say, "Go play this! We're about to discuss spoilers!"
11:37
I can tell the difference
The Marriage pose is mutal Hand Holding
Abduction is the Not so mutual Grabbing of the Wrist
Not Tim Curry, JAMES WOODS!
The marriage of Hades and Persephone was the Creation of the concept of The Fall-Winter Seasons
While Persephone is with her mom during the Spring and Summer Seasons
And she is with Hades the half of the year, Fall and Winter
It's the Story of the Four Seasons
Courtly love is literally just the medieval equivalent of simping for egirls. Do with that information what you will.
the "speeding up" song at the beginning is "In The Hall of The Mountain King" by Grieg. She wasn't speeding it up, that's how the song goes.
3:55 James Woods. Arguably his best and most iconic performance. He liked playing him so much that said he would always play the character whenever his used. And he did.
Hercules tv show, House of mouse, Kingdom Hearts…..
Hades is Kronos’ first born Son, though I believe Hestia is the actual first born
Courtly love came from eastern traditions when the Crusaders came back from the east. They had a tradition of love poetry etc that kind of helped with the job of falling in love with your bride sight unseen because they didn't get to see their bride till the wedding night.
in a few early languages there was no difference between the word for "kidnapping a woman" and "marrying a woman". It sounds like Greek was one of them. modern sexism has nothing on ancient sexism.
I would watch that four hour video. Do it
dionysus' two big things are fermenting things and insanity… he is technically corruption incarnate.
Taking Red's theory into account, the theoretical original telling of this myth is PosidonHades kidnapping his daughter. Persephone, as we know her, is the daughter of Demeter and Zeus, but Despoina is the daughter of Posidon and Demeter (as horses).
You, being of a historical and punny nature, should definitely react to the Di-vine Deities playlist.
James woods voices hades in disney
Kinda shocked that neither Red nor Arier put a censor in for the painting around 8:00. And that Youtube didn't trigger either