Hades 360 is the wild wood coaster at Mt. Olympus. This was the first coaster ever built by Gravity Group and it was upgraded in 2013 to include a corkscrew inversion and Timberliner trains. This is in addition to a layout that already included one of the best pre-lift sections, a giant drop, and two long underground tunnels. But is it now too rough?
Video Credits
Hades Off-Ride Tunnel (thegravitygroup)- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glnyiSrgUiw
Hades POV (Sean Flaharty)- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDaMqTFTqD0
Hades 360 POV (AmusementInsider)- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NovsZK3fUk
Background Music
Training Rock by Infraction [No Copyright Music] / Race For A Thrill- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-QKTLiQPPk
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This would be amazing with a full re-tracking and some new titan track!
I think titan track would do wonders.
What an insane monster. It doesn't have the best airtime but it has so much. This thing is a powerhouse fro mstart to finish, literally start to finish cause it has probably the single best pre lift on any coaster with 4 airtime moments, on the pre flift. The drop isn't crazy buts its big and has good views, the trains are fantastic timberliners. The tunnels are just unbelievable on this thing as you can't see crap down there and it has 2, and they go all the way across the parking lot. This my be rough but it absolutely ads to the intensity. If it was smoother, I actually don't think I would like it as much as the roughness makes this thing feel out of control and that's what makes it special. That's how a lot of Gravity groups are and I think this shows it the best. Also a very long ride. Hades may be hard to marathon for some people but I absolutely love this thing. This is what started Gravity Group and it sure is history.
Awesome review! I wish I could’ve ridden the original Hades, that would’ve been so cool! To be honest I don’t mind the roughness, I got used to it after 12 rides in one night
worst roller coaster I've ever been on out of 275 creds.
For me, yes it was unbearably rough. Top 5 roughest woodie for sure. I'd love to give it another go, but not holding out hope it'll be better. I wish I could've enjoyed the airtime it had, but I was too focused on the jackhammering.
One of my biggest bucket list coasters left in the USA. I do like a few rougher woodies in Grizzly (KD), American Eagle (SFGAm), Great American Scream Machine, but I must admit I was mixed on Mine Blower so I figure this ride is like Mine Blower times 10. Just how much rougher is this thing than some of those coasters?
how did you first start enjoying coasters and the huge drops and not just find them terrifying?
Waldameer should have GG come in and redo the road crossing on RFII to be a barrel roll like this one has
I don't get how the biggest drop of any wooden coaster with singe bench trains (with the possible exception of Python in Bamboo Forest in China) is rougher than wooden coasters with bigger drops with non single bench trains. But I guess Hades 360 is rough! It's kind of a bucket list coaster for me, but not as much as 1: some of the coasters I've ridden; 2: Some of the coasters I plan to ride from May 29th though June 9th this year, 3: The Voyage, Fury 325 and Velocicoaster. Thanks for posting!
I was just here over the weekend. Every ride was closed besides Zues!! No go carts or nothing… I fear this place may be on the verge of going out of business 🙁
I love Hades 360! Hope I get to ride again
I rode this only in 2019. The roughness was on the edge of what I could tolerate. Visiting on Tue-Wed, the line was always around 20 minutes, which was just enough time to recover, although because of the full-train rule, I did get a couple rerides, because they needed someone to stay on. This makes my overall top 25 with that experience. Hearing your review, I don't think I would like this ride nearly as much now. Something needs to be done to fix this, because that layout is far too good, unique, and interesting.
It makes me wonder if the Timberliner trains could be part of the problem. The Gravity Group coasters that I've ridden with PTC trains run so much better, and they are my favorite 3 from the company. Mine Blower is unbearably rough now, and I have dropped it a lot in my rankings. Even Oscars Wacky Taxi & Kentucky Flyer have had some mildly rough spots in my experience.
So many people want this (and Mine Blower) to be retracked by GCI's Titan Track or RMC. But if anyone should do it, it should be Gravity Group themselves, since they recently introduced a smoother pre-cut track. Plus, it'll be easier maintenance-wise (since they only need Gravity Group for the entire coaster).
I think my first rides were either in 08 or 09, it was rough, but tolerable then. And it kept getting worse. I was actually on the first public train for the 360 revamp. The ride was about 60-70% retracked. The parts that were retracked were very smooth–making the sections that weren't extremely noticable. And it kept getting worse from there. It's been since 2015 I think since I rode it. I plan on making it back to the park this year–not really looking forward to pain. I love the ride's layout–it just needs Knoebel's levels of maintenance or something drastic for people to see how great this ride can be. Unfortunately, the park would rather buy more hotels than maintain their star attractions.
As much as people like the Timberliners, they’re 100% the reason this ride has so many issues. Other than the momentum issues, the lighter trains react to track imperfections more and bounce around. I rode in 2011 and while it was bumpy, it wasn’t half as bad as it is now.
Is it possible the roughness of the underground tunnel is because concrete absorbs no energy/vibrations in the footings of the ride? This is how I felt about the indoor coasters at Nickelodeon Universe. I mean, some rides are rough because of the track and I understand that but I feel like some rides might be rough because the footing is too rigid.
I feel either Titan Track or Topper Track would work best for the underground sections. Sidebar: I never understood the purpose of having the brake run so high, especially if they only have one train to cycle.
When I rode this in 2008, it was favorite wooden roller coaster anywhere. Now I am starting to wonder if turning this into Hades 360 was a mistake. I hope this ride was given or will be given severe track work by the time I visit there this summer.
Gravity group has a serious issue with their rough coasters. Mine blower and hades are unbearable.
"You don't see something like this on Pantheon" has got to be one of the best disses at coaster theming (or lack thereof). The fact that cheesy Mt. Olympus has better Greco-Roman theming than BGW is both comical and kinda sad…
Cue people on Reddit shaming you for being honest about a ride's smoothness
Hey Canobie I just thought of this but if gravity group wanted to keep the layout really smooth they could put their new Titan track on it
Another great review and I totally agree with what you said and I think that at the bare minimum the tunnel should get retracked but maybe the reason they didn’t do so yet is because it will be very hard to get to it. They might have to take off part of the parking lot just to get the materials down there
This ride looks like it could be a top ten coaster in the united states if it got a Ghostrider level retracking ngl.
As a Wisconsin native who grown-up with Hades you don't have to worry about rough coasters at other parks atfer riding this over the years
Looks wild…But also pretty problematic. How does Hades compare to Predator at SFDL in terms of roughness? Predator is currently getting retracked, at least partially, with Titan track (portions of it have been spotted on the ride in offseason.) perhaps Hades could also get some Titan track some day, or maybe even an RMC conversion. They already have the inversion there, lol!
I laughed when you used the term “Achilles heel” because it was thematically clever:
If it's that rough maybe it's time to call RMC.