Hades, The Grey Wastes | D&D planar Lore | The Dungeoncast Ep.361



William and Brian zoom out of the material plane and back in to one of much darker origin. Learn all about the gray wastes of Hades, who and what resides there, and what can be gained from traveling to such a dull, dreary, and evil place this week on The Dungeoncast!

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18 thoughts on “Hades, The Grey Wastes | D&D planar Lore | The Dungeoncast Ep.361”

  1. I had this idea for a Madara-esque villain who, instead of wanting to genjutsu reality, wants to undo reality so hard it never existed and never could start to exist in the future.
    Id like him to be the BBEG of a lengthy level 1 to epic level adventure with some pretty heavy involvement from the gods, alignment, order and chaos.
    Therizdun being a misconception only studied or written about by the mad, neither a god or a personality, but that which is left over from the overgod Ao separating himself from nothingness creating chaos, and with it the opportunity for reality, life, love, death, suffering…

    Starting as a group of hirelings sent out by the BBEG to collect artifacts, do small quests for villages and cities to collect money and maintain his facade as a person of respute. Moving up to a planes hopping adventure where the party becomes legendary, eventually fighting said BBEG and disrupting the process (that they unknowingly helped procure artifacts for) that would siphon and concentrate the power of tharizdun into the bbeg's command.

    Your videos, lore, and especially the atlas exterus episodes are really great inspiration, and I just found out about diggie's lore of the gods podcast through your b'haal episode.

    I know neither of you have really done a lot of level 20 play. But do you have any recommendations for really high CR fights, resources or balancing tips? You've mentioned an older edition book once that detailed level 20-30 play once but I dont remember what it was called.

    Love your guys' show. I've been watching for years now, recently binge watching through everything Ive seen and all the new stuff Ive missed in the last few months.

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  2. So interestingly…Slough are different words with the same spelling….Slough, a body of slow moving water, as like in a swamp is pronounced: Sloo….Slough as in when skin sloughs off, is pronounced: sluff….Slough as when trudging through some dreary or arduous task, it's pronounced: Slog

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  3. I feel the core problem with Hades comes down to TSR and WotC not having a real strong idea of what they want from the Yugoloths, there's were hints that there might be a Grand Yugoloth masterplan to usurp the title of the masters of the lower planes and evil during the TSR days, but it was always cloaked under the "cloak of Oh Yugoloths are liars therefore anything can be brushed aside as unreliable narrator." Then WotC got D&D and the Yugoloths have been a endless cycle of mercenaries that don't do much and retcons.

    Honestly I'd recommend just ignoring everything D&D does with the Yugoloths and just copy and paste the Daemon lore from Pathfinder since it has a stronger identity.

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  4. “The Ring is the Greyest movie”…you mean the movie that was shot in its entirety with a green filter on the camera?

    Bleak AF, no question, but give it another watch. That whole movie is green, my dude.

    Nitpicks aside, fantastic episode!!! I LOVE that ya’ll are fleshing out more of the outer planes and giving them the love they so desperately need!! Well done, love you guys, and keep up the great work. The Bostonian in me can’t help but to bust balls lol.

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  5. I love whenever you guys cover outer planes! I can’t wait until you guys finish your way around the Great Wheel! I hope y’all eventually do a dedicated quasi and para elemental planes episode.

    Also, any thoughts about flexing your creative muscles and fleshing out what the Shadowfell’s Underdark would look like?

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  6. 9:13 "Night hags grow thick here in Hades." 😅😂 I was totally expecting Brian to make a comment here.
    Like "Night Hag throwing it back with them big butts."

    Ahhh no Brian's demonic influence is affecting mee gaaahhhhhh avenge me

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  7. 10:40 Instead of a Windex Bottle used to spray and keep these larva moist with the blood of good humanoids, or just humanoids in general

    I am imagining a Yugoloth in a farmers outfit, overall's with a straw brim hat and a watering can/pale. Walking up and down spraying the larva, occasionally chasing off a Quazit or Imp with a hellish pitchfork. "Nah! Get outter 'er! Mah field!"

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  8. 33:30 Thats a good point William

    Demons heirarchy is one based on absolute power of strength, might makes right, you serve the strongest via fear and admiration.

    Top dogs come to power through beating the hell outta others and clawing to the top. And then on this swaying column you have to play the game of balancing the power of your underlings holding up your column, squashing and resetting yourself.

    Devils: They are probably too strict with their stiffled rules and legistlativure and beuracrats. Promotion takes time and lots of trials to ween out their "weak" via political macinations. To be clever and promote all manner of trickery.

    Everyone know whats its like to work at an office. Those back pocketing snake co-workers who constantly report their fellow workers for any little infracture to make themselves look good. The ultimate brown nosers.

    Their society is too strict. Rigid and probably stagnant, with lots of great potential being kept away.
    Like in theory: A meritacratic society would promote the competent of say, someone who really understands logistics into a space to help funnel ways to get supplies and troops to a specific frontline, getting wounded out.

    Or a competent general in charge of a force to use various artillery bombardments, etc.

    But with devils.. Its politics and knowing, schemeing, plotting and ruining your rivals, with backdoor dealings.

    Yugoloths seems to have a very potent mixture of the two systems, rules enough to keep the peace, enough chaos to promote ambition and drive to be the best. The best there ever was. (The ultimate evil Pokemon trainers. Sorry the theme song came to mind.)

    And they have enough to worry about with the blood war right on their front yard, literally. And they probably have to sell out their services as a necessity to survive and thrive.

    So I can totally see the General and King working like a two way governing system, where one works on keeping the civilian government in line. Payments for soldiers n their families, trade with other realms. Securing resources for the soldiers, and in turn soldiers do what they do best.

    Its interesting to note: Both in fantasy and IRL. To be trained as a soldier has very little practical trade value in civilian life, whilst civilian life can be likewise very impractical and yet practical. Slight tangent aside, apologies.

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  9. 58:15 I’d honestly love to see a giveaway of a rulebook for a different system. Cuz DnD is fine but I’ve had a lot more fun playing other systems like Call of Cthulhu and Mutants and Masterminds, but I know this is a DnD specific channel so not sure if other listeners would go for this

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