00:00 Intro & Fist Basics
02:11 Aspect Overview
08:26 Hammers
21:44 Boon Options
25:03 Outro
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00:00 Intro & Fist Basics
02:11 Aspect Overview
08:26 Hammers
21:44 Boon Options
25:03 Outro
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I think Demeter Fist need a buff.
It's ok in low heat , but in high heat 12 hits for 1 burst is just not enough benefit..
The playstyle feels extremely clunky .
If you really want high dps, Gilgamesh feels way better due to bigger hit box, more consistent damage, more stagger, and better special.
Hey Haelian. Recently found you and for some reason these videos are very comforting. As of today I'm in a very bad spot and this came up. This video is helping me feel okay right now, so thank you.
I know comments like these arent helpful and dont contribute to any discussion, I just want you to know you've helped someone by accident
Hi Haelian! Great Vid! Just wanted to let you know that personally I feel like the music in the video is a bit too loud in my opinion and it is making it a bit harder to listen and focus on your voice. Anyway..
This series helped me expand my horizon and try out new hammers and boons and just play differently with my weapons and I just wanted to say that since I haven't been able to unlock Gilgamesh yet but for now I think that Talos fists are the best in my opinion cuz it kind of just helps you close that distance between enemies just much more efficiently and you don't have to rely on your cast to hit enemies fro afar or if the flying enemies go off the map like in Elysium sometimes, the special is also really nice for damage control heat since it hits multiple times.
I had a really great build going on with Talos fists with Aphro Attack and Ares special also with their Duo boon. It was really easy to just pull foes to me, applying Doom, getting rid of the 2 damage control health bars and then hitting them with my Attack to apply Weak on them as well so they keep taking Doom damage constantly. Empty Inside and Impending Doom work very nicely in my opinion with this build. I encourage to try it out if you haven't.
These are my favorite.
I love the zag fists with athena artemis, for anyone who has hard time learning to play with forced overtime or extreme measures this is a amazing build
My favorite part about Aspect of Gilgamesh is that the dash strikes (while low damage) can chain in the same way the dashes do. This opens up interesting builds, such as Zeus or Dionysus Attack, as you are throwing out a series of very rapid hits constantly. Incredibly simple to proc Privileged Status as well by applying a status curse with dash and attack.
Personally, I found that to be more effective than trying to make the basic attack work. Sure, it hits three times as hard as the dash strike, but it's slow and lacks synergy with what you want to be doing with Gilgamesh, which is dashing constantly.
Legend has it that you can't lose if you get rare crop AND quake cutter
The best part about rush kick is how far you can pull it off. You can FLY across rooms between enemies to minimize your downtime between kills with attacks. It works best imo as an opener with something like Heartbreak Flourish or Divine Flourish + Blinding Flash. It ain't a top pick but it can speed you up all the same if the other hammers offered aren't that good.
I find Flying Cutter to be a pretty good hammer if you can get Divine Flourish. When your special is charged up it will be able to deflect in a big AoE that can give you a lot of safety and damage reflection.
Rush Kick for Demeter feels super good. You end up with 7 hits for 40 = 280 base damage on a long-ranged move when you're charged up. That's the equivalent of more than 3 Chiron volleys. Shreds hydra heads, chunks other bosses.
"Hard to compare in that asp… from that angle there."
Good save.
I use Gilgamesh a lots though and I have some tips for it:
You don't have to use Maim in room except for bosses where you can fight for a lengthy amount of time. 4 seconds until the main explode are more than the time it requires you to kill stuff. And yea, maim on companion is like instant next phase.
You can hold attack and dash at the same time (square cross on PS button) so you can dash attack multiple times in a row at very high speed and the amount of time you can do that depends on how many dash you get. If you want to stop dashing, just release X and keep holding attack. You can clear room super fast with it too. It allows gilgamesh to be able to do dash effect/on hit build as competitive as other as aspect. I have an entire video covered that if you want to see how it works (my only video about Hades).
The dash strike get reduced damage for sure but it is still higher damage than other fist attack.
Of all of them Gilgamesh is my favorite xD
can you make a video for every characters quest line i would really enjoy it.
also i’m 12 and i got introduced to hades by my father and i already have 50 hours and it’s been like 3 weeks and i’m really enjoying hades and love your videos.
great video! But can you please put timestamps or little names for video parts so we can easily check what we're looking for? Thank you!:)
A favorite Gilgamesh build of mine that I've been enjoying a lot is a blade rift focused setup using Ares and Artemis. Equip Gods' Legacy, start with Ares' cast (I personally like to utilize Stygian Soul for this build, though it isn't absolutely necessary), then strive for Hunting Blades duo (opting for Artemis's attack boon when you first encounter her). From there aim for Ares/Artemis/Hermes legendaries. Icing on the cake if you can pick up Mirage Shot/Heart Rend/Ares' call/Chaos cast charges as well (in the case of Heart Rend, I strongly recommend putting Aphro on the special slot for obvious reasons). As for hammers, the Gil exclusive is a no-brainer of course if you manage to come across it, but other than that just go for the usual suspects (breaching cross, explosive upper, etc.).
And there you have it. From a dash distance toss out your rifts, immediately dash-upper to maim, then proceed to either wail on the poor sap with your attack or dash back out as needed. Rinse and repeat. If you have Ares' call you can throw that in as well for some insane bonus destruction with no risk of being punished by the enemy's extra damage (you can achieve a similar result with either Athena's or Hades' call, though Ares' is preferable I would say because of the synergy it has with his legendary and other BR boon buffs that you should be shooting for).
A bit of a glass cannon style, but it's really fun and I've personally experienced consistent success with it, including multiple escapes at 20 heat (with EM4). Give it a go if you're interested!
Nice video. I might also add that there's certain combos that can make the Fist that some much stronger
Merciful End Duo with Ares Attack, Athena Special and Dash – no explanations needed, this combo has been repeatedly nerfed and yet is still strong. I must note that unlike most other Duos, this is one is a bit more annoying to be useful due to requiring three standalone boons to be even be considered.
Dio Attack with Ares/Aphro/Artemis Special and Aphro/Artemis Cast – Fists attacks fast and helps to stack Hangover, and all of Dio's Hangover Duos (Curse of Nausea, Low Tolerance and Splitting Headache) are fairly easy to get and you can mix and match to your hearts content.
23:45 poseidon is TRAMENDOSLY BAD on Demeter. They constantly take 3-4 hits and fly away
The person who is single handedly making me not suck at Hades. Thanks for your videos mate!
I really like these videos cause they show me new ways to play the game. Could you make a video about the most fun/meme builds?
I really like the combo of quake cutter and draining cutter for Talos with Athena special. It feels very safe, you can pull enemies in, then land and deal massive AOE damage, all while deflecting with Athena, and healing for each kill. It probably works better at low heat than high heat (I'm only around 10 right now) but it does feel good. For the attack on that build I like Aphrodite, but I do want to try some configuration of athena/ares with their duo boon.
Aspect of Demeter plus the charged Special is absolute insanity
Got it with Artemis on the special, a fully charged Special with the +5 hits is strong enough to chunk around 25% health of most bosses, and that's the special alone, not counting cast, attack, and call damage
Draining cutter is CLUTCH in Styx when you fight those little rats. You can almost full heal from 1 room.
Concentrated knuckle is amazing IMO – it doesn't persist after the combo and dash-strikes break the stack, but even then if you only hit 3 times in a row – its 33% BASE damage increase. If you hit 4 times – its 50% more base damage (that's more of a difference then between NO BOON and Artemis attack). And if you make a full 5-hit combo – its a 67% bonus damage (about as big of an impact as adding Concentrated Volley to Chiron bow)
Great video! I find myself agreeing with you a lot. However, I did want to say (maybe to spark a discussion) that I find you slightly undervalue Hammers like Draining Cutter, Flying Cutter or Rush Kick. Yes, I do agree that builduing for only the special on the fists doesn't usually work out too well, but I do think these hammers still help a lot since, even when I focus on the attack, I still use my special a lot for utility (maybe not with Aspect of Zagreus, that's a bit of an exception here), so the hammers still do a lot there. Sure, you could argue that, since you're going for the attack anyway, that you should go in an focus on things like Long Knuckle, but I find that to not always be possible and in the end, at least imo, it will mainly depend on your boons wheter or not your Fist build works out. In general, I think all the hammers are good (like you mentioned), but none of them are truly necessary for a good build. They are more complementary compared to other weapons.
I'd say the best build I've gotten for fists is something I like to the call the "Lawnmower", basically gilgamesh with Ares Atk + Athena Dash + Merciful End. Then you just hold down dash and attack button and swipe around the room. This does mean you have to get Athena on special, but you shouldn't be using it anyways. For extra damage tho, you're gonna wanna try to grab Athena's curse, but it's also pretty important to grab Impending Doom, so you can augment Doom damage in two different ways with poms. Everything extra (hammers, Arty-PP-crits, DEF boons) is just sauce.
Hey awesome video add timestamps to the vid too but overall great as always :3
Its of note: Rush Kick TOTALLY NEGATES your Talos special… fix it, supergiant.
Flying cutter is best combined with Demeter aspect and Artemis special. It deals more damage than Explosive upper and charges really fast, the only thing you need to work is proper direction and position. Also I take Athena for perma-deflect attack granting extra safety while you charge the special.
Do you think they'd ever add a 7th weapon? I wonder what some good ideas for one would be
I don't have enough titans blood to try at the moment, but demeter with zeus on attack and poseidon on special, using the duo boon, could be nice
Incorporated Draining Cutter into a high survival build, albeit low heat. Talos + Draining Cutter + Nourished Soul. Even at common, the 30% heal increase seems to tip rounding over to 3hp/kill. Added in several % increase Flourish boons, and I was cutting through Satyr Tunnels with constant full health.
Just did a run Aspect of Zagreus on fists, hermes keepsake, hermes dodge chances + extra dashes, ruthless reflex, aphro special + dio attack for privileged status, add Athena dash and sturdy hammer and you can just facetank without giving a single fuck, all while dealing quite potent damage, especially if you get aphro dio duo. So much fun, I love this game!
It’s clear for Gilgamesh bro you want deflect special! Divine Flourish because I’m pretty sure while they mob is maimed the damage you take increase the deflect towards the mob! I like to
Pair it with deflect dash divine dash. This way I’m not taking any damage while I am at risk! Stack with Drain cutter and you’re insanely strong and have great sustain through the dungeons!
I have a problem with talos: it feels slow. The animation of pulling the enemy and then punching. IMO, it makes Zagreus very vulnerable, especially in high heats with forced overtime. Any opinions?
music too loud and too shitty. besides that good video
Hey don't know if anyone has said this yet but on the switch release, Rush Kick does affect the Dash Special. The difference is that a regular special is 2 hits with lots of end lag and the dash special is a single hit with less end lag. However, the dash upper seems to have a weird auto-tracking that is hard to control. So if you are doing a dash special and you are too far away from an enemy or didn't dash in the right direction, the actual kick will completely take control of where you go in order for it to land. Which for bosses can be a problem since you may misinput and suddenly you are face to face with one of their big attacks and all you can do is sit there because the end lag is still longer than the standard dash special.
Flying Cutter is amazing on Aspect of Demeter. The charge applies to all the bonus hits so it technically has 6x scaling & the bonus range makes it really easy to hit multiple enemies with the special. Have killed multiple Hydra heads with a single charged special
One important note, is you don't want to Dash special with it, because the Demeter bonus hits can't be charged on the dash special, they just come out immediately
Talos was my favorite fist I kinda feel now it's damage isn't that great because of the special buff after this video I think demeter is probably the best one overall and then zag and talos are tied
I wish I recorded the one run where I had quake cutter with Gilgamesh because I feel it would change your perspective on this. It makes the special infinitely more spammable. I basically just stopped dashing altogether and would just special around a room. You're still moving so you don't get hit super often. I had Artmemis boons on my special, clean kill, and hunter's mark, and I melted everything. Probably my fastest Hades kill as well outside of 5 rocket spread rail with crit boons.