I analyzed player data to determine how to beat 32 Heat | Hades



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50 thoughts on “I analyzed player data to determine how to beat 32 Heat | Hades”

  1. i have yet to beat 32 heat without god mode, but i'm determined to get there! my dexterity sucks though, so hard labour and lasting consequences seem way too daunting since i'm bad at dodging. gotta say i'm shocked and a bit discouraged that achilles spear has such a low clear rate! it's my favourite weapon, and i assumed its sheer damage numbers were enough to get through 32 heat for the average player. certainly gonna rethink some of my strategies on this!

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  2. I finally got 32 heat, on exactly my 100th escape! And I did it with quite a different pact setup than listed here, because I just go with what feels fun to me, not what's optimal or anything. I didn't take any of lasting consequences, convenience fee, or tight deadline. I thought those would all be unpleasant or stressful. Instead, I had max jury summons, max calisthenics program, and max extreme measures. I just preferred it that way.
    I was on Beowulf shield with poseidon cast and mirage shot, and the safety from that carried me through extreme measures 4. Although for a while, Chiron bow with dio & friends was my default for raising heat.

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  3. It's wild to me that so many people started with Forced Overtime. I do everything I can to avoid investing in it since it compounds negatively with everything EXCEPT Tight Deadline (that I can do on 5 minutes, anyway, at normal speed). Surprised so few chose Approval Process, too—by the end of a good run, you end up getting 5 or so boons that don't do anything for you. But I guess overcoming psychological hurdles and getting your emotional support purples has a profound effect on people.

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  4. Haelian, one of the best realizations I had was that if players go Chiron/Dionysus it is actually a smart idea to have no time limit at all and instead boost health, overtime and enemy density. While it wouldn't fit every aspect it fits with fast ranged Dio because players can dodge around while Dio ticks damage against the targets and there's no time pressure, so dodge as often as you need and take your time.

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  5. Chiron feels like the easiest weapon to get a strong and safe build going with minimal "I have to have _____ boons/hammers". Relentless volley with a good attack and special is all you really need.

    My strategy was to just burst everything from a distance and dash away if I was able… Chiron bow with Aphro attack, Artemis special, and Athena dash. The idea was to full glass cannon the run and I only wanted to engage if I had to for the deadline. It took quite a few tries, but eventually I got a clean enough run and won. The biggest help came from Haelian's guide (I'm pretty sure I didn't follow it 100%, but the changes I made were based on his suggestions).

    Pacts: 100% hard labor, 0% lasting consequences, 80% con fee, 40% jury summons, EM3, 30% calisthenics program, 2 benefits packages, middle management on, underworld customs on, 0 forced overtime, heightened security on, 0 routine inspection, 2 damage control, 0 approval process, and 7:00 tight deadline.

    Mirror options: Death defiance, greater reflex, and Family favorite because I was having issues getting privilege status to trigger without getting to close. (not sure if anything else matters)

    Everything else was chosen based on "does this help me burst down enemies faster?" The reason I avoided forced overtime was because I felt everyone just got on top of me too quick. The only two "anti-synergy" pacts I took were 30% calisthenics program and 2 damage control. I had to hit 32 heat somehow.

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  6. After trying every other weapon and aspect dozens of times, the first time I gave spear a shot on 32 heat I got the win finally. Hades aspect, Demeter on attack, Artemis on dash, serrated point for hammer and it was a surprisingly very easy win. Still haven't beaten 32 heat with any other weapon.

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  7. yikes, i've got 139 clears and haven't even considered trying 32 heat. best ive done is 22 and i kinda just hang at that 20 range depending on my mood, i haven't really pushed myself, i just enjoy the game. maybe i'll give higher heat a try so i can upload for the spreadsheet

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  8. I've attempted 32 heats multiple times before, but I always end up dying by Asterius or Hades. Even though I can comfortably clear 20+ heat, I thought 32 heat would still be far away dream from me.

    After this video I got motivated again to try 32 heat with Heart Rend Chiron and voila, 1st attempt of the day and I finally beat it! I'm still shaking from excitement like holy shit.

    Thank you Haelian for words of encouragement and your helpful videos. I've found some of my fav builds thanks to your videos!

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  9. My first 32 heat clear was with Hestia, on the first attempt I got to the heroes boss fight and my second attempt got me to Hades. I got a successful attempt on my third 32 heat attempt and looking back on it I did it in a very silly way. I turned tight deadline off completely and slowly wittled down the enemies. I also only used the shackle.
    At the moment my best heat clear with Hestia is 51 and I've done 32 heat with every aspect (even done some fun challenges like dash only with 32 heat).

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  10. I don’t have the victory screen, but my first and only 32 heat clear I feel like I cheesed with zag fists and plume — along with my favorite trio of gods for that build: Zeus on attack, Aphro on special, and Dio on call, with smoldering air. The dps of that combo is intense, and with the plume, zag fists, and the mirror giving Dodge for dashing, you just don’t get hit.

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  11. Fun video, thanks for the data dad. I got my first 32 heat clear on my first try after finally getting up the courage to try it, which took 170 hours and 72 clears. Eris rail with Zeus attack Aphrodite special, as it was what I was most confident with. First chamber got delta chamber, which I know most consider pretty mid but is honestly my favorite hammer for letting me focus more on positioning and keeping the pressure on without thinking about ammo. Got triple bomb in Elysium too which was goated, made me realize I actually had a chance of finishing the run. Ran EM4 which was super risky but I love the three phase dad fight, although it nearly cost me the clear, finishing with no death defiances and 40 health left. Never felt more elite gamer status than that moment; Hades is such an incredible game.
    Edit: submitted my victory screen to add to the data!

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  12. I am slooooooowly climbing up the heat ladder, (at 12 with bow, fists, and spear atm). I feel like a problem i have is that i am not at all comfortable with the other weapons, specifically rail and shield – I’ve only ever done 1 or 2 heat with those and it was a STRUGGLE. That means I’m running low on titan blood though haha, any tips?

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  13. So I didn’t actually have the confidence to do 32 heat until starting a second save file when I got back into the game recently. I used the Eris rail and stubborn defiance with a bit of help from Achilles and his lover giving me an 80 percent heal on every room. I personally found it fulfilling but I think I’ll be sticking to a lower heat for the average run cause I just find that more relaxing. Just pushing up the heat level on each weapon to 32 heat and then I’ll see from there 😊

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  14. I still cannot understand why you think Chaos shield is so good. It has mediocre/low damage. It's not got anything it really excels at over the sheer strength of Beowulf or the safety and power of Zeus.
    It's fun to use, especially with the extra bounces, but i've always just been disappointed by it, no matter what boon combos i use.

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  15. I beat mine with rama with tight deadline 5 mins and minimizing hard labour and jury sommons, typical setup apart from that. had dio on special and athena on attack and everythig just sort of melted

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  16. I did it for the first time in February 2021! Funnily enough I found a message I sent on discord to my friends from January of that year saying "I don't know if I even want to attempt 32 heat on hades", but then my friends beat it so I had to. I remember looking up good builds for higher heat (like 40 and 50) because I figured if it worked for them it would work for 32, and I vibed a lot with Rama! Rama is still my fav.

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  17. When I first beat 32 heat, I used Rama and a lightning special build. This was made easier by building up to it through increasing heat levels.

    On another note, I strongly disagree with the recommendation to max out both Hard Labor and Lasting Consequences. This seems like one of the more difficult ways to beat 32 heat. In general, I think 32 heat is easier with Death Defiance rather than Stubborn Defiance. I think Stubborn Defiance quickly becomes better above 32 heat, though.

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  18. Looking at the data you collected and your suggestion for 32 heat pact setups, its no wonder I stopped earlier on when it wasn't going well. I'm not having the best time recalling my pact setups, but I know they were quite different than the ones suggested. I may have to give 32 heat another shot once I finally get through my backlog of games to play.

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  19. ok getting your first 32 heat clear with the rail before ever unlocking any of its aspects is probably the biggest power move I've ever heard of. almost certainly not actually a new player because… why, but still definitely chad.
    really showing the titans who's boss.

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  20. My favourite pact has to be heightened security. It reminds me to stay out of traps (which I’ve died to more times than I’d like to admit) and just generally makes the game feel so much more fun.

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  21. My first 32 was Achilles spear so I ran 5 minute deadline. It was close, but a lvl 4 aphro attack+ 3 athena cast w/ Parting Shot did the trick. I was running Routine 2 and 1 Approval Process to avoid Jury/Forced Overtime so it definitely wouldn't have been a run that I could replicate consistently.

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  22. My first and easiest clear was Chiron with a hangover build (epic hangover special + both aphro and ares duo) and pact options that made it a battle of attrition that just buffed the enemies but didn't debuff me. Like jury summons, calisthenics etc and ditching the timer all together, also didn't touch boon or mirror reducing conditions. Then I just played a "poison them and run away" strat and beat hades with two DDs left.

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  23. I recently completed 'beat 32 heat with all weapons challenge', ngl, a lot thanks to you because I was peeking at some builds you advised 😀 But I was also listening to myself bc some things just don't work for me. For example, I struggle a lot when I have LC even on 50% level, I used it only with long distance weapons like bow, shield and gun.

    In case of the bow I am one of these people from yr data that loves Chiron. I started with Ares on special. Was lucky to meet Aphrodite in Tartarus so my privileged status activated quickly. Athena dash for some protection.

    With fists it was pretty easy, it's my fav weapon (zag+zeus, did it twice, once with athena dash and once with dite’s dash and spamming her legendary call like hell). I do prefer Demeter's aspect but I took Zag for dodging chance. And it feels faster to me.

    With sword I kinda did that accidentally (close call run), I needed to check out my screenshot to refresh which build I used (it was Dio on attack and Zagreus’ aspect — I know almost no one likes it but I really do). Well, bold of me to call it a build, I chose weird conditions of Pact and only filled my attack and special 😀

    With shield I figured if people beat 64 heat with zeus+zeus it’d help with 32, right? Yeah, I was right, +got explosive return+empowering flight my beloved.

    With Eris I just couldn’t believe myself, I was lucky to get cluster bomb right at the start so enemies were just melting under Zeus attack and Ares on special. Poseidon’s splash helped a lot too. I did hope to maybe get vengeful mood since I encountered Demeter and she offered me epic frozen touch but welp wasn’t lucky.

    Spear was the hardest bc I just hate it. I attempted some Achilles + casts builds multiple times and in the end won when I didn't get the build I wanted but what I did get was epic Artemis on attack and flurry jab 😀 Artemis also gave me epic hunter’s mark which was just a chef’s kiss. Athena’s dash and lightning rod were a nice bonus. If not for your idea to try Zeus cast I would’ve probably still kept making runs trying Poseidon’s one haha so thank you — even if this run switched to being focused on attack.

    Now I am slowly replaying game in hell mode and I think I wanna try to complete the same challenge in this file. I wanna know how it feels 😀

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  24. Okay, so the first time I seriously attempted 32 heat (with god mode on, I am not good at this game), I hadn't watched or read much on it. Went Chiron bow with lots of Zeus. But Tight Deadline makes me kind of anxious so not knowing any better I went for none of it… and EM4 (I don't think I even did Underworld Customs lol, although I don't remember my full pact). I did get to Hades (pretty easily tbh!) and went into the first with pretty high confidence; I had tons of health and all my defiances and a good setup. I had him on the third healthbar with an agonizingly small amount of health left when he killed me. Honestly probably 2-3 specials on him away from winning. Incredibly demoralizing! I read up a bit (probably watched one of your videos, Dan), and do feel like EM4 was my fatal flaw there. But when I did reattempt for a while there, everything I could think to replace EM4 with made the early game tough enough I was just having trouble getting out of tartarus (or maybe I just wasn't getting as lucky as that first run!).

    I honestly gave up after a couple of weeks beating my head against that wall, just figured I've spent about 190 wonderful hours loving this game, got all the achievements (again, god mode on), etc. But watching this has made me decide to start playing again (probably just clearing uncleared heats at first, I think for all weapons I'm at between 14-16 heat) and then when I'm back in "shape" I'm going to get that 32 heat clear. Either Chiron again or maybe fists. And I will be coming back to this video (and the screenshots I took for quick reference) when I do. Thank you!

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  25. The first time I beat the game at 32 heat (and the last, never again, I'm comfortable staying at 20) was with Zeus shield with a fully maxxed up Zeus special (static discharge, splitting bolt, the whole shebang). It's the only weapon I managed to finish the run with (after god forbids how many attempts). I forgot how I setup the pact of punishment, though, but I believe I did threw in at least 1 underworld custom.

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  26. JUST GOT IT!!! My previous record was 15 heat with the fists so this was a major step-up. I only have a maximum of 6 heat for all the other weapons, which is a bit embarrassing. It took me probably around 10 or so attempts to get the 32 heat. One time I got to hades phase 2 and died due to the deadline 😓

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  27. It's always surprised me how much heightened security is hated, I always thought it was pretty easy to avoid most/if not all traps (bar the lava in Lernie chamber).

    ;I do find sometimes it can be run ending if you're not careful (in Styx/against Hades), But overall it is pretty easy to play around and just be extremely careful/avoid being near traps at all. Personally i've found it to be better than taking plenty of the other options when at 31/32 Heat

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  28. I Think my first 32 heat clear was with either Arthur+Lambent Plume (pre-nerf) or Zag Fists + Lambent Plume (pre-nerf). giving like incredibly high dodge chance by the end of the run, especially if you the high rarity dodge boons from Hermes. Basically 'tank' builds

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  29. I had been trying for a few weeks to get 32 heat down with Hera bow, (going for a aphro or similar high damage on the cast + divine dash) and just wasn't able to make it happen. I was playing using a wireless control (when it was wired it would disconnect every few seconds) and could swear it was dropping inputs or lagging. No one believed me. I went out and bought a brand new controller so I could play with a wired connection and beat 32 on my second attempt on a perfectly average luck run. I was equally happy to have beaten 32 heat as to prove that I was right!

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  30. video has motivated me to attempt and after like 5-6 runs of absolute dogshit boons i've done it 👍 eris, some very cope merciful end, early strong drink to nullify lasting consequences
    outside of forced overtime on satyrs it wasn't that bad but it's like the game knew to fuck me over after my streak of the ole classic turbo zeus rush delivery combo prior to attempting

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