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I just discovered the Hades as it was on sale at my local shop and I love it as a forehand disc.
I prefer the thrasher, flight is the same as the hades, and you don’t have the McBeth tax.
Should have included the prodigy D4. It’s 12/5/-2/2 and is a flippy bomber.
The Malta is the greatest disc ever made
My furthest thrown disc for 2 years. Never leaves the bag.
my hades flips like crazy.
I don't throw anywhere near 450 & my hades will usually flip up and ride a bit to the right before finishing lightly at the end of it's flight. A more overstable one could be cool though, maybe I'll give this run a try!
I bought a Malta a few months back and I love it! From my local PIAS and without the Paul McBeth price tag most of his other discs come with, so it is my only PM line disc. I do wish it were a bit more overstable like the numbers state on the disc, but it's still a nice trusty disc for getting around some trees.
My big z Hades has always been as stable as the big z Zeus I bought at the same time. I've got destroyers and bosses that flip more.
Opposite experience for me. Hades is my roller and my neutron orbital flies like a -2, 2. MVP is more consistent(ly more stable) so I'd guess you got an oddy from discraft.
I love the Hades it flys like a 10 year old destroyer..