NOTE: some small balance changes have happened on the live PC version of the game that have not affect the Switch version yet (soon to come) and are shown in this video.
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I spent so many runs trying to use Zag Aspect Special like a shotgun, getting as close as possible to have all the arrows hit one enemy. It worked, surprisingly, especially with charged shot. For some reason my brain just could not comprehend that Chiron Aspect worked like that except a million times better, until I saw a Haelian Chiron run… My foolish brain is thankful
Hey so, I dunno whether this was a bug or not, BUT I had a run with Rama aspect twinshot, and Chain shot, and my attack needed to charge for like 5 seconds(nearly ruined my run) I think the combo might be bugged since before I picked up Chan shit the charge speed was normal also, the max range was super low for some reason(like I am talking spear range)
19:10 On Chiron, it double your base damage!
-> 80+3+6+9+12+15+18+21=164 against 80 normally
Chiron is my go-to aspect if I just want to clear. That thing goes through bosses faster than shit through a goose.
Thanks for continuing to pump out the entertaining runs and informative guides, Haelian! Keep at it!
Yes, thank you good sir : )
When I first started playing my favourite weapon was the spear and I hated the bow. Now about 40 hours in it's the exact opposite. I just love the amount of possibilities with the bow, especially Chiron. My problem earlier on was I wasn't focusing on different builds I was just picking boons as they go so never really ramped up the damage like I should have.
so zeus doesn’t work that well with Chiron? I had a lot of fun using it though. jolted+area damage+demeter duo. it melted em4 hades even though there is some icd which I learned from your video. and it looks extremely explosive too with all the lightning hits. the aoe lightning blasts are really good to fast clear styx rooms too.
Triple shot is incredible with rama if used correctly/judiciously. (Tailesque showed me this in one of his high heat runs.) Triple shot has an overlapping pointblank region which triples damage. But it's a high level move that only advanced players should use because it means being very close to enemies (which opens zag up to damage). Unless the player has excellent timing and is precise with dashes, I wouldn't recommend this. Also, rama's blast wave's knockback is very useful especially against enemies with projectiles. (Tailesque also demonstrated this in a high heat run.) It functions similarly to athena's deflect. It's incredible against EM4 hades spear throw which is very quick and difficult to avoid. SGG is great at creating builds and adding abilities but they have some lapses when it comes to explaining things. Perhaps SGG wants gamers to find out hidden mechanics through experimentation but certain things (like attack vs dash-attack) need to be explained more clearly.
Aspect of Hera with Trippy Shot feels like a meme build that actually just turned out to be completely legit
No mention of the Athena Special? Widespread deflect is great. Completely murders Ms. Murderer. Turns the Wizards Circle into an ash pile.
He didn't actually do a dash-strike either time at around 1:40 ? He just dashed and then attacked. The dash-strike is a quick shot that has no charge effect. In other words it looks nothing like what he was showing off? Press dash and attack at the same time and you'll see it doesn't charge up at all but it still registers a dash attack. I'm confused.
I got my first clear with Chiron using the Posiedon / Zeus Duo and I've recently been going Trippy Shot Hera and loving it. Trippy Shot Hera along with Aphro Attack and Ares Special would be one of my favourite ways to play at present, even if the damage doesn't get too crazy.
How does Triple Shot work with loaded Casts on Hera?
So I did the math on Zag bow pitting Artemis attack vs Aphrodite attack using the common rarity percentages and funnily enough they end up having an identical average damage per shot
Artemis you're looking at 1 in 4 shots being crits as opposed to Aphrodite 1 in 10, so even though the average damage comes out the same seems to me Artemis would win overall for consistency.
Me before watching the video; chiron + zeus special is the way to go. That's how i got my first win.
Haelian; Zeus is bad with Chiron because of internal CD.
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Twin shot with Rama is not that great because its cuts your range but the charge time is just as slow as before, meaning enemies on forced overtime +2 can easily get away from you before you get the minimal charge.
Chain shot/Triple shot is where it's at, though. The bounces/extra hits scale with shared suffering and you can clear rooms instantly. Bosses also have the habit of summoning ads and taking a lot of extra damage because of it.
Am I the only one who absolutely hates the Rama aspect? I like the other aspects because they’re quick and snappy, and Rama is the complete opposite of that. If I want a slow but chunky ranged weapon, I’d rather just use the shield and try to get Piercing Shot.
Also, Charged Volley is 200% now.
I got Rama to work into some crazy build with Zeus before, but it needs a lot of investment for it to be very good.
Basically double strike + legendary + Hermes special speed.
If you can get all 3 you can spam Rama special and annihilate full room.
I disagree with you mentioning it falls off later on.
However like I said, this build is very rng dependent, so not every runs going to amazing with it.
You pretty much need to see Zeus at least 4 times , and also some lucky ones too.
Also with fast special spam build like this you can always pair it with Poseidon dash to do even more damage while spamming your special and dashing.
Hey Haelian, I love these vids and how in depth you go matching everything with the different aspects. But one tip I would give is to maybe visually show which aspects go well with which hammers/boons. You talk about it in depth but it would be very helpful to have something visual to go alongside it. How I imagine it is some sort of table/graphic with the Aspects being each category and then you dragging the best boons/hammers to those aspects (maybe a top 3 or something or just all of them in order from best to worst). This is extra work though, not sure how much you are willing to put into these vids :p
I'm waiting for the meaty fisters of malphon
Piercing volley on Chiron can be clutch. It just destroys armor, which then allows you to interrupt enemies.
Loving the guides. The bow is the bane of my existence. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, I tend to really struggle in Elysium with it
Drinking game: Take a shot every time he says the word "here"
Good luck making it to the end of the video
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You actually could use Charged Volley with Chiron when it was first introduced. I remember doing an Artemis run with it and also got +4 arrows on special and basically 2 shotting each phase of Hades.
You are the man. Thanks.
Quick note: Relentless Volley/Drunken Flourish is absolutely S-tier on Rama. Seven stacks of hangover in about a quarter of a second wrecks e v e r y t h i n g.
Quick question.. when you use aspect of hera, do you get the status effect off of attack boon and cast boon in the same cast shot? Ex. Aphrodite attack and Athena cast with deflect status boon on?
I fucking hate the bow 🙁
The extra 4 Special Shots enables a super degenerate doom stacking build w/ Rama bow. Get Doom Special, stacking doom and delayed doom, and all you do is spam special as fast as possible to cleave 1k+ dmg dooms across a whole room.
Youre the man! Keep it up the great work
Charged volley is something i use on hera when i build for demeter zeus dio to get ice wine and scintillating feast basically zeus dash, call dio cast, granny special (especially nice if you get Arctic blast)
I've had decent success with concentrated volley using the Ares curse on both Zag and Hera. With both Impending Doom and Dire Misfortune, you can shotgun 1-2 volleys and then drop a huge Doom hit.
I learned a lot, but if I learned nothing else, learning Thunder Flourish has a secret cooldown was worth watching this video for.
Awesome guides man, I've been a fan for a short period of time and I've learned so much from this channel already! Thank you and keep this amazing content coming bro!
These videos are just lovely. Thank you!
As a relatively new player I don't utilize the attack too much as it's a bit slow to charge.
My fave combo with a bow is Charged Volley + Artemis special + Piercing volley (Armor damage really helps). You have to get used to the moves of all enemies, but if you manage to get charged special while hugging daddy… It does shitton of damage.
A difficult combo to get, Charged volley is actually the key one here for me. Also works good with Doom + bonus Doom dmg with multiple stacks boons. Weakness boons also good to be added here to make sure you get less dmg if you are punished for being too close.
That kinda did it for me, maybe I'll learn how to use Attack properly, but so far shotgun volley works really good.
Also this may be less applicable to anything but aspect of Zagreus and could have been OP as hell with Chiron, but… 🙂
Rama with twin shot + perfect shot and artemis attack and dash is absolutely disgusting lmao